Grand- Canyon-Dwellers
Reasons Kincaid Story Is Likely True
This article is in response to numerous posts regarding an
ancient civilization carved into the walls of the Grand Canyon. You can find
many online searching for “EXPLORATIONS IN GRAND CANYON”. The one below poses some of the issues many
people raise.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-americas/grand-canyon-forbidden-zone-0014481
To make a summary using my current understanding, a likely
outfitter named G.E. Kincaid, was providing services to a Professor Jordan in
eastern Utah around what now is called Jordan Lake and the Green River north of
Green River, Utah, not Wyoming. When the professor returned to his teaching
responsibilities, Kincaid decides to take a mineral exploration float journey alone
down the Colorado River to Yuma, Arizona.
Along the way he sees a huge, very interesting streak
several feet wide and extending down a cliff hundreds of feet, a sure
indication of some type of mineralization. When he gets up the extremely
difficult climb near 3000 feet up a steep walled gorge, he can see it is a
weather-related event coupled with some oxides, likely iron. He returns to the
river tired and pitches camp. After supper, he walks around and discovers some
steps carved in the sandstone and explores the source.
Up above a shelf he finds a cave entrance not visible from
the river. He enters and finds what a lot of folks call Egyptian artifacts, but
the later description by an anthropologist likens them to Tibet or even islands
around the Philippines. Kincaid picks up an armload of artifacts and takes them
back to his boat and continues his mineralization examination down to Yuma.
When he gets to where he can, he mails them off to Professor
Jordan, then the President of Stanford University, who assigns an
anthropologist to work with Kincaid and plan a second trip down the river to
investigate the cavern. They take better lighting equipment and a normal
examination kit used by anthropologists. They collect numerous artifacts which
are taken back to Stanford by the anthropologist.
Kincaid then begins thinking about the next phase which he
hopes will land him a major outfitter job requiring dozens of workers and some
specialized equipment. He stands to make the discovery of a lifetime. While in
Arizona he contacts a newspaper reporter and referring to notes left by the
anthropologist tells his story and what he is hoping will work out.
Unfortunately, the newspaper report is poorly written and
even the name of the newspaper is in error. Also, Professor Jordan is a devout
eugenics promoter and gets cross-grained with the Stanford Board of Directors,
eventually leading to his relief of his presidential position. People like the
Smithsonian Institute also drop their interest in funding his proposals.
The reader herein must reconcile that numerous important
information reported actually matches up extremely well with what can now be
found using Google Earth images. One very important aspect is that Professor
Jordan is misnamed as S.A. Jordan whereas the Jordan at Stanford is named David
Starr Jordan. However, that gentlemen uses
Starr Jordan as his first name, the name Starr coming from the last maiden’s
name of his mother who died when he was young.
This blog will strive to do the following:
1.
Provide the exact location and how the streak attracted
G.E. Kincaid’s attention.
2.
Why that location is a perfect place for an
underground civilization to thrive.
3.
How and why Prof. Jordan and Kincaid could have
developed their relationship and where Prof. Jordan existed. How Kincaid had a
relationship with the Smithsonian Institute, and they didn’t know him.
4.
How the technical anthropology discussion supports
the existence of the find.
5.
The exact location of the cavern entrance and
what was done to cover it up.
6.
How Chaco Canyon may be related and the importance
of opening the cavern.
The problem for the hoax believers is that there actually is
a place, using modern-day Google Earth, where the east rim is visible from the
river and at the top of that area is a huge pillar that could easily have had
the type of wide and long mark that attracted the attention of Kincaid for his
interest in mineralization. This is pretty solid proof that Kincaid was a real
person and the trip he took really happened.
Since it is likely Kincaid came from Missouri still inside
his mother and was hatched out at least a handful of years prior to 1860 due to
the rapid inrush of white folk for the gold rush in Pierce and Boise Basin, he
also was likely to have grown up around mining interests in Idaho, particularly
in the Fort Hall area of SE Idaho. Parents often tried to find some way to
bolster childhood self-esteem by telling him something like he was the first
white person born in Idaho but of course there would not have been any way they
could support the claim. But it
apparently worked, as Kincaid must have fed the thought into his report.
The Report
It is
likely if there was ever a written report, it was done at Stanford University
by the technical person accompanying Kincaid on their trip together through the
Colorado Grand Canyon. The trip was maybe made in the 1895 to 1904 era when the
river flow rate was extremely low, being half the normal flow and before
President Jordan ran into problems at Stanford. That situation would have made
the treacherous rapids much easier. Any
report would have been typed and carbon copied and mailed to Kincaid for
approval of his contributions. He would
have sent them back the signed original and maybe a brief note. His carbon copy
is likely the source of what ended up in maybe more than one newspaper, but
likely one with the word “Gazette” in it.
Kincaid
would have felt the pressure to round up a crew to do the manual labor at the
site and would have considered running an article in the nearest paper. He
could bring people up from Arizona since that would only be a one-way trip as
they would be returning to their home area via the river after the operation
was over. He would have had to arrange for transportation such as train
tickets, stagecoach passage and even private buggies. He would have had to plan for major food,
tools, tents, and medical supplies as well as small boats for extricating
seriously injured workers. This likely was going to be the operation of a
lifetime. Any contact with a newspaper reporter would have been long before any
operation could have been approved or funded.
If the technical person
accompanying Kincaid on the second trip had geology training, he might have
been able to estimate where the river level was thousands of years ago and
helped Kincaid in his report. The
wording looks like it was influenced by firmly understood scientific geologic
understanding.
Kincaid says there was no trail, and the climb was a
challenge. However, now we know there is
a good trail from bottom to top but the bottom portion easily visible to
Kincaid at the river starts up perpendicular to the sighting to the pillar. A
man looking that far up to his destination does not really want to lose visible
connection with it. So, he had two options, both challenging to say the
least. He could go up the gorge from the
river’s edge or go around the steep rocky sidehill, but doable. Once about a
third of the way up the gorge it becomes less steep and has plants growing in
it. However, it would wash a little
every year so if it was well traveled by humans or animals there might not be
much obvious sign of it. The existing good trail enters the south fork of the
gorge and then turns down to the main branch and then turns back up to the
pillar. The vee-bottom of the two gorges in that area is easy hiking. The trail
from the river up to the south gorge shows up easily on Google Earth and looks
well-traveled by modern folk. In my conversation
with a local outfitter, he says he has made the trip 4-5 times.
Another modern-day hiker in 2014 had planned to go up the
Tatahoysa Gorge but missed it and took the ancient trail by accident. Upon reaching the South Gorge, he knew he had
to go down to the East Gorge to get to the rim. He was thankful to find a way
around at least two 140 ft climbs requiring ropes for safety descending. This
description suggests that maybe the trail marked here was not widely known in
that particular configuration. The wording in the Navajo permit indicates you
can be barred from the area if you get off the trail. Of course, it is unknown if the Navajo knew
about the marked trail herein.
Whenever the modern trail was discovered, it was likely by
someone who came down from the top and ran into the steep section and then
turned back and then noticed the animals were all turning up the south branch
of the gorge. He would then follow the animal tracks until they turned west out
of the gorge onto the existing trail down to the river.
It is possible that there are some oxides on the top of the
pillar which if struck by a large lightning bolt might be pulverized to where
an accompanying rain could wash down the face of the pillar, perhaps painting a
streak several feet in width and hundreds of feet in length. There are dozens
of mineral oxides that would be yellow and very reflective in an accompanying
soaking rain. That is why the streak is not there most of the time.
The next big problem for the hoax theory is that Kincaid
says the cavern entrance is above a shelf and not visible from the river. That shows
easily on Google Earth near the bottom of the trail about 50 yards from the
river’s location now.
In my home area, the South Fork of the Payette has washed
away the river bottom deeper by 1 foot in the 55 years I have been fishing
it. Not just relocated muck from one
area to another, but over 28 miles of riverbed. One might be tempted to think
at that rate, the river should have cut through the earth in a few million
years. But in Idaho we have earthquakes. The one over around Mt. Borah in the
early 1980s caused the peak to change elevation 9 feet and the valley bottom to
move 16 feet. The crack around the hillside is clearly marked and visible from
the hiway a mile or so away.
The location Kincaid describes along the Colorado River
where he did his initial exploration alone in a wooden craft has to be
somewhere that the river is flowing north to south or else there couldn’t be an
“east rim”. Since the bottom of the canyon is mostly a very steep initial 400
feet stone, the river needs to then turn west so that a shallow viewing angle
is available. And there needs to be a gorge or something that penetrates the
bottom steep channel to be able to see up out of the canyon to the rim top at
about 5410 feet by current measures. Since the river elevation is about 2930
feet that would make the distance to the top about 2480 (perhaps 1480 is a
simple error by the publisher). This
makes it almost certain that the publisher is not making up the story.
The technical person knew something about anthropology for
the orient, something outside of Prof Jordan’s training and anyone else
associated with Kincaid or the publisher. He also knew something of the
religions of Tibet and northern India. He also knew about “cat’s eye” and Malay
foundations, a very broad-based technical background. This is not something
someone can verbally tell an uneducated man and expect him to re-write it down
in clear description. The technical
support person wrote these paragraphs himself and were in the Kincaid carbon
copy.
The detailed descriptions of the Hopi beliefs are something
only known by someone like an anthropologist that has studied serious things
and read numerous books. Not somebody
like Kincaid or the publisher. It again is not the specialty of Prof. Jordan.
It seems quite likely some technical person has been assigned to the project
and accompanied Kincaid to the site at least once.
The argument presented here is that these technical
descriptions could not be hoaxed by Kincaid or the publisher. Nobody could hire
someone to write them without them seeing the site, making the site a reality.
From the trail at river’s edge and downriver for a mile on
the south side there are numerous trails which I assume are beaten down by
river floaters perhaps camped or taking a rest break for the paddlers. There
are several places a cave could go unnoticed, and they are illegal to enter
anyway. Most people would think they are abandoned mining efforts and too
dangerous to enter. And there is another very important reason to believe the
cave existed and discussed further below.
However, for the potential cavern dwellers, this outside
area would be a good place to get some sunshine and perhaps grow some fresh
food irrigated with river water in pottery.
The fact of the ancient trail and the need for underground
dwellers to have a food supply to last winters, or for even drought years
suggests the “myths from Pagosa Springs” are perhaps not so mythical. The map
below can be expanded. It shows 94 miles
from the rim above Kincaid Cavern to the mouth of the San Juan River. Then it
is 320 miles up the winding San Juan River to Pagosa Springs. This avoids the
rapids on the Colorado and uses the very gentle slope of the San Juan which
gains about 3200 feet in 320 miles, or
10 feet per mile which is a very gentle slope.
In Idaho there are many natural hot springs and the wild
animals like deer and elk gather around the edges and lick the salt off the
rocks where the hot water has evaporated and left salts behind. An ancient
civilization would have observed the animals and figured out a way to harvest
the salt for diet and curing meat without dehydration. Calcium carbonate,
abundant around Pagosa Springs, is used in modern times to treat bone weakness.
My grandpa Dave Branson and grandma Irene along with my
20-year-old dad Joe came in 1910 by covered wagon from just upstream of Pagosa
Springs to Boise Basin Golden Age Mine where Joe already had a job as a
graduate apprentice blacksmith needed to sharpen and temper steel for efficient
drilling in the mine. Growing up near Pagosa Springs, he had heard all the
Indian legends and he personally knew how good the hunting and fishing was in
the San Juan even in 1910.
An ancient civilization would have hiked across the plateau
for say 3-4 days with women, young men hunter apprentices, and followed what is
now Rd 6110 across the Hiway 89 gorge and out on the Rd 2010 toward Mount Navajo,
a useful sighting demarcation.
They would then find the easiest gorge down to the mouth of
the San Juan River and get into their canoes left from the previous year and
start up the San Juan. There were plenty of fish and fresh water as well as
berries, roots and other foods known to them. By staggering the paddlers, they
could go for 16 hours at about 2 miles per hour. It would be about 16 x 2 =32 miles per day or
10 days of paddling for the 320 miles. Allowing for fishing from the boat and
animals they shot, clubbed, or speared along the river edge, the trip might
take say 2 weeks to make the trip by the healthiest men. Women and older men
could take longer. The younger men could leave fresh food parcels hanging for
the stragglers.
They could then spend June-July-Aug-Sept making dehydrated
meats, veggies, flour from wild wheat, maybe corn and things too many to list.
They would build large barges and start sending folks downriver, say in early September,
who would unload and store the food and then build other items out of their
barge wood to get ready for the next loads. This all would make for very nice
living conditions with their underground living quarters heated and air
conditioned. They just had to come out
along the river and enjoy the sunshine now and then. I have read articles about
potential fish that would have been running by their front door. It could be that option provided the bulk of
the meat in spring.
One might note that this route passes within 50 miles of
Chaco Canyon which likely developed much later. (see www.chaco-canyon-warning.blogspot.com
) There is a drainage from the San Juan up through to Chaco Canyon. More on that
later.
Arizona Gazette
The issue of the anonymous author is easily disbursed
because the owner of any paper is the most likely person to have contributed an
anonymous story. Because of Kincaid’s seemingly exaggerated claims of his
findings, the publisher doesn’t want to be sued by people who spend millions
looking for it.
But there are other problems. The Arizona Gazette didn’t
exist in 1909 nor did it ever exist except as an insurance flyer. The Arizona
Business Gazette was founded later too. But there was a paper called the
Arizona Republican which was founded in 1890 and sold to Mr. Heard in 1912 who
renamed it The Arizona Republic. It went on to become a major paper in Phoenix
ultimately leading to the entrance of Gannet Corporation and modern times.
But the Exploration article widely reported online talks
about a “publication in the Gazette in April 1909”. However, the Phoenix Gazette did exist,
founded in 1881. It bounced around with different owners such as the politician
Samuel Webb. There is a good Wikipedia article on it. Newspapers often
re-publish old stores and since the article clearly says “Gazette” with no word
Phoenix or Arizona, the publisher and timing are questionable. But it was
obviously published by at least one newspaper and likely before 1909.
Kincaid The Outfitter from Idaho
We now know a professor named Starr Jordan (full name David
Starr Jordan but went by Starr—note: Star R looks a lot like Star A or S.A.
Jordan and his mother’s maiden name was Starr) was doing substantial fisheries
and botanical studies in the Green River area of Utah, not Wyoming. There is a Lake Jordan named for him. There
is a mountain named for Jean Agassiz, a mentor for Jordan on eugenics. Since
most folks in Utah probably never heard of either of them, it is likely Jordan
named the mountain and the lake and local helpers carried the word back to Salt
Lake City. The important aspect of this is that Kincaid, the outfitter, could
and very likely did meet Jordan along the Green River in Utah, not the town in
Wyoming. Further south there is a town named Green River, Utah. I have been
there in 1955 when my brother, dad and I took a trip to the old Columbine Ranch
on the San Juan about 5 miles upstream from Pagosa Springs.
Jordan had been the president of two major universities, U
of Indiana, and Stanford, so he was well connected to funding from the
Smithsonian and numerous other agencies eventually like the Sierra Club he
later helped to lead. In 1891 he became President of Stanford University in San
Francisco Bay area founded by Leland Stanford (wealthy railroad owner) and his
wife Jane.
My experience is that college professors do not make good
outfitting planners and they would need a local roughneck to arrange horses,
mules, outdoor foods, tents…just what outfitters do now in modern times. If
Kincaid grew up around Idaho mining areas, he would have those skills and
likely the professors and maybe others told him their efforts were funded by
the Smithsonian, hence he thought he was working for the Smithsonian but
naturally the Smithsonian never heard of him. But he certainly could have been
on a first name acquaintance with Starr Jordan.
The published article Explorations of the Colorado River was
sloppy in many respects. It indicates Kincaid some time before 1908 came down
from Green River Wyoming to Yuma. It is far more likely Kincaid ended his
duties with the Professor Jordan folks when they returned for the fall school
term and then went south a short distance to Green River, Utah where there is
smooth sailing to the Colorado River. Growing up in a mining area of SE Idaho
he could have had a hankering to look for mineralization in the Grand Canyon
the easy way by float boat.
It was very important to outsiders like professors doing
research to hire outfitters to make connection with horses, mules, and food for
them for weeks. This meant that the outfitter had to have advanced payment to
pay for expenses in advance of the outing. Obviously, the researchers were aware
of scam operatives who could just run off with their advanced money, so they
dealt repeatedly with the same outfitter. Kincaid, on the other hand, wanted to
deal with folks that didn’t forget to pay him for the balance of the money he
had coming. The two parties had mutual gain from each other. Professor Jordan
may have done previous studies on the Snake River in Idaho as he wrote an
article “Fisheries of the Northwest”.
In Idaho mining, a streak that can be seen for about a mile
is something that has to be investigated. And some common oxides of iron are
very yellow and in Idaho there are lots of “iron dikes” as they are called. Often,
there are smaller and not visible long distances of gold and silver veins associated
with the iron dikes. Kincaid was certainly justified in hiking up there and
there are now some interesting common large stones that may have ancient marks
on them. The pillar is stunningly huge
and not uncommon in the Colorado Basin. Many show up on Google in that area.
There are numerous petroglyphs all over the Grand Canyon area walls.
The hike up 2480 feet would poop out a say 50-year-old
person enough he would on return to camp plan to spend the night and maybe walk
around after dinner. That would give him plenty of time to casually explore the
immediate area along the south side of the river for the mile easily available
by dozens of trails clearly showing on Google. The steps had to be a major
attraction.
It doesn’t seem likely that Kincaid contacted a newspaper on
this first trip, nor does he send anything to the Smithsonian. Whatever he had to
send anywhere went to Prof. Jordan, probably at Stanford by then. Professor Jordan was not specialized in
archeology or anthropology so he would obviously hand off the samples to
somebody at Stanford that was specialized in that field.
On that next trip, a project development phase, President
Jordan would have sent somebody who was perhaps trained in geology and
anthropology. In those days and even now, the Smithsonian would cut somebody
that is the president of a university some major slack on what they spent money
on. The funding for another trip by Kincaid and a technical backup would have
been quite meager, perhaps less than $500 in the early 1900s. To travel clear
across the country from Washington DC to San Francisco by rail was only $134
first class. For the technical person to travel from San Francisco (Stanford
U.) to Salt Lake City, Utah area was probably much less than $100 and the
return to San Francisco from Yuma, Az was likely similar. Kincaid probably had
his own way of travel as mentioned my grandparents came from Pagosa Spring to
Boise Basin in 1910 all by horse and wagon. There were no rural buses but still
there were many stagecoaches. The road from Salt Lake City to Green River, Utah
was one of the main roads in Utah. The boat to float in the river had to be
purchased since it would not be returning, likely less than the cost of a horse
back then. If Kincaid rode down there on a horse, he simply traded the horse
for a crude wood boat.
The main idea of this preliminary development stage would be
to see what was going to be needed and make an estimate and proposal to the
Smithsonian and other funding folks. In my career I had to do this type of
thing for engineers that were going to be working in the back country of Idaho
on say a high voltage power supply for a new remote mine.
The discussion of copper tools reflects knowledge from a
technical person who understands the smelting of copper and knows the meaning
of the word matte. This is not something the publisher or Kincaid likely knew
anything about.
Unfortunately for Jordan, Leland Stanford died shortly after
Leland had selected him to be president and the wife Jane had become
disenchanted with Jordan because he was heavily into Eugenics, made famous
after Jordan’s death in 1931 by no less than Adolf Hitler when he started
cooking Jews. Eventually, Stanford
University removed him as president in 1913 and he served as chancellor for 3
more years and then retired. He had a
stroke in 1929 and died two years later. In the meantime, the Smithsonian also
severed their relationship with Jordan because of eugenics he supported before
he left Stanford.
In 1905 Jane Stanford (wife of founder) was poisoned by one
of her own household workers and died of strychnine poisoning. President Jordan
made a major effort to cover it up and call it natural causes which when the
proof of poisoning came out a year or two later, didn’t sit well with the
Stanford Board. While he held onto his job until 1913, his wings were severely
clipped and getting funding would have become much more difficult. Therefore,
when Jordan died and his wife gave something like 100 boxes of his written
material to Stanford Records, much of it sat unopened for years. But the Stanford Library Service provided me
a list of the boxes and one un-opened box is labelled “mountaineering”. If he
writes anything about Kincaid or the Grand Canyon Exploration, which he may not
have, it will maybe exist in that box.
The theory being launched here is that the next trip by
Kincaid and someone from President Jordan at Stanford (which Kincaid thought
represented the Smithsonian) is of the utmost importance. One can tell from the
technology being advanced in the Kincaid alleged Report that is being backed up
by somebody with advanced studies in geology and anthropology.
Armed with perhaps a partial boat load of anthropological specimens,
the technical person took them with him back to Stanford, not Washington DC.
If the mounting trouble being aimed at President Jordan kept
growing because he kept publishing eugenic articles, the Colorado Project just
died on the vine and so did the newspaper. With Jordan and Kincaid about the
same age and WWI starting around 1915 (my dad went into service in 1917) and
the onset of Spanish Flu, the Grand Canyon project just went away and there was
nobody left to revive it, especially if the Indians were fighting it. There is
one more huge problem covered at the end of this effort describing the blocking
of the cave entrance. If Kincaid heard the entrance was blocked, that would further
end his interest in the project.
What’s the Government Done for You Lately?
Just a brief look at the Navajo Nation Permitting directions
indicates the Indian Nation is ok with breathing in, but not out. Absolutely
everything is regulated. Dogs are restricted because they don’t want them
pooping on their sacred soil. (wonder if the coyotes, fox and wolves are seriously
constipated?)
Obviously, Google Earth made it easy for me to find the
cavern entrance, but one could actually accomplish the same thing by carefully
examining maps available in the 1900 era. As mentioned earlier, the river had
to have a certain geometry that only occurs once in the milepost indication by
Kincaid. If representatives of the Indians thought, and likely they should
have, that their ancient artifacts would be carted off to Washington DC never
to be available again, why wouldn’t they hire competent explosives technicians
to block the cave, making it look like a natural caving?
The federal government guided by Teddy Roosevelt supporters
could have done a few things to hide the cavern entrance if they found it. From
the Kincaid description, and similar caves in the Colorado Basin, there were no
decorative marks nearby outside or anything to call attention to it. However,
Kincaid did mention the steps leading from the cave down the steep part of the
bench which would be easily noticed. Likely, the people trying to hide the cave
removed those steps and threw them in the river or buried them in the beach
sand. Or, they may have simply broken them into something that would roll down
the steep hill and far out into the river.
Likely they would not be recognizable now even if found.
The image below attempts to show how the “Cave Killers” may
have closed the entrance. Note the huge rocks in the circle some 30 ft in
radius. They have sharp and weak corners indicating they did not roll down the
gulley. There are corresponding grooves in the huge cliff above that could have
easily been blasted down to block the cave completely and make it very
difficult to gain entrance even now.
Since I am not only an engineer, but I also was raised
around a mine where my dad was the superintendent, and he was an explosives
expert. Not only blasting in the mine, but huge ponderosa pine stumps, road
blocking boulders, swamp draining…just about everything one would want to blow
up my dad was doing in the 1950s and I was always helping him.
With long ropes draped down over the cliff, the dynamite
technician would rachet up the rope above the cave and place an excessive
amount of explosive in all cracks and hand drill holes if there were insufficient
cracks. The purpose of this portion of
the project would be to pulverize a lot of powder down in front of the cave.
This powder would cushion the large rocks so they wouldn’t break nor leave
openings under the large rocks.
The second phase would be to rachet further up until the
cracks indicated a huge rock might survive the fall to the pulverized powder in
the first phase. As tall as the cliff is, there were likely several
alternatives.
In those days, black powder fuses were normally used, and the
technician needed to make sure he had time to get off the ropes and pull them
back out of the blast before the dynamite went off. One can see in the image
that this is exactly what appears to be blocking the cave. One can go to Google
Earth and zoom up to a larger image and see there is plant life growing in the powder
and at least two stones near 30 ft in diameter. It appears there are smaller,
but very large, stones under them.
The image below is a wider shot and the gps coordinates at
the bottom right are for the yellow circle where the cavern entrance may be
buried.
Imagery Date:6/15/2017 lat:36.386957 lon:-111.845547 elev: 3295 feet
Anyone who can make the number of tunnels and chambers
described by Kincaid could easily construct an emergency exit far away and
above the cave entrance. One just must
contemplate what the inhabitants may have done and what the government may not
have noticed.
One might wonder why there are cave openings along the
Colorado Basin that just appear on the wall far above where it could be
accessed by ladders. Could these be vents from other entrances?
This blog report hopes to seriously reduce the area that
needs to be searched.
Chaco Canyon Builders?
As mentioned earlier, Chaco Canyon is only about 72 miles up
a winding riverbed from the San Juan and only 50 air miles. Since there really
is no indication of a good all year living arrangement at Chaco Canyon, it
makes sense that the folks up at Pagosa Springs provided food to the workers at
Chaco Canyon during the working season and all went back to the Grand Canyon
underground living quarters for the deep winter. Chaco Canyon is a little above
6000 feet in elevation and Pagosa Springs a little above 7000 feet. Winters for
my family in 1900s were stiff around Pagosa Springs. The closeness and near
altitude make Chaco Canyon not a lot better.
People bringing food from Pagosa Springs could have dragged
boats up the stream to Chaco Canyon like Lewis and Clark efforts in western
Montana.
The technical discussion emanating from Kincaid and
assistant demonstrates the cavern people had a much more sophisticated
understanding of our universe than any of the modern Indians have, and maybe
more sophisticated than all of us have. There may be no limit to the importance
of understanding what they were trying to do for us.
My blog www.chaco-canyon-warning.blogspot.com
is far more technical than this report and probably not fully absorbable by
most readers. So, I have included something, yet to be posted on the Chaco
Canyon blog, that requires no mathematical skills. No many numbers; not much
scientific terms….just groups of three circles, lines, centers and tangents
connected by a straight line. If one tends to think this image is just mumbo
jumbo lines, it definitely is not. It is the underlayment of some of the most
complex geometric systems ever envisioned. Three circles cannot appear on the
same line unless something caused them to be there. My apologies for the
complexity of the image, but it is for the serious researcher to study.
Does 18.97366 look like a completely unintelligible
number? It is simply the square root of
360. How about 58.2492236? It is simply phi/10 x 360. See there…that wasn’t complicated, was it? The
length of the top cyan dashed line is 100000/phi/128 where 128 is 2^7
or seven octaves if we are talking frequencies. Perhaps this image is trying to
help us find Comet 1680.
Here's how the geometry of the image tends to work. Take the
dashed cyan lines where the ends have a color-coded center mark matching the dash
circle using that center and passing through at least 2 other circle centers or
tangents. In the unusual case of the lower of the three cyan lines, the circle
in dashed dark magenta passes tangentially with the top dashed red line. If you
draw a circle placing the center at a certain location, then extending the
radius to a location, nothing else significant should be on that circle unless
it was designed to be that way. To verbally discuss all the relationships would
confuse most of the readers, so the serious researcher just must study the
image thoroughly.
It is one thing to find these relationships, but something at
a much higher level to make a plan that connects everything. Nobody could
reproduce this image precisely without knowing the underlying geometry. There
are 22 circles identified and using those circle centers as input to another
layer of hidden circles produces 1540 circles (22 x 21 x 20 /(1 x 2 x 3) ). Of
course, those 1540 circles can produce a further hidden set of circles (1540 x
1539 x 1538) / (1 x 2 x 3) = 607,525,380 circles. One would need a
supercomputer to even attempt a grip on what that might tell us.
The overall analysis at Chaco Canyon is very accurate and
should be accepted temporarily until something better develops. If we were to
gain access to the inside of the cavern with modern computer technologies,
there are likely many connections to Chaco Canyon. What if we found a warrior
helmet like the one with the eyeball connection shown below marked in blue
outline.
If the cavern was built first, then the builders of Chaco
Canyon had an option to make events in Chaco Canyon relate to the location of
the cavern entrance. In the image above one can see on the yellow line there
are 8 events in consecutive order that align with the azimuth and distance to
the cavern entrance, marked Kincaid East on the image below. The most important
feature is the yellow line passing through the eyeball of the helmet which shouts,
“I am trying to call attention to the cavern”.
The distance from the eyeball to the center of the cavern
entrance appears to be prime number 227 x 10 A cubed where A=1.718281828 or the
natural log base E minus one.
On the right in white shows the overall design of Chaco
Canyon heavily relies on the lightspeed number generated by subtracting the
latitude from the absolute longitude (107.9607123 – 36.060298) and divide by 8
and then taking the square root to yield exactly 2.99792458. The white line
develops that number everywhere along its length which is (sqrt 5 + 1) *
100=323.606xxx or 200 x phi. This is a portion of the “Newgrange Procedure”
discussed in detail on www.newgrange-geometry-portals.blogspot.com
.
This makes it almost a certainty that whoever built the
cavern complex also built the Chaco Canyon layout describing Comet 1680
actions. It now seems likely these people came or were brought here for the
purpose of building these two colossal structures. They likely were not allowed
to use any advanced technology of their transport ship but had to use apparent
technology we would momentarily think ancient people had back then.
As far as the lightspeed and other constants are concerned,
these were not necessarily known by anyone walking around. Like modern savants
who can play concert level music without having ever seen or heard them, say it
just comes to at least one of them like some type of spiritual intervention,
leaving no trace of how it was provided.
We owe it to these civilizations to heed their warning and
start preparing for the future. It is possible that the cavern was built just
for the purpose of allowing a few modern people to survive a serious event in
the future, perhaps like a Yellowstone super volcano triggered by the near
passing of Comet 1680. Dehydrated foods could easily allow inhabitants to
survive for years while the earth recaptured its glory times. The Colorado
River certainly solves the problems of drinking water, waste disposal and
supplemental food from fish.
Even if the land is severely damaged and unlivable, fish
from the ocean may still be in plentiful supply long enough for the land area
to recover enough. It also provides a way for portions of the population to
migrate downstream to perhaps an area where there was much less damage, perhaps
clear to South America. The most severe damage may only last a year or so. A
similar situation exists in Turkey.
By the time we get Navajo Nation and the Teddy Roosevelt
supporters to agree to open the cavern at least temporarily, we may need it.
Who Owns the Rights to Access These Sites?
It will be discovered soon that the modern-day Egyptians
have impeded the learning mankind could have developed from the Pyramids for at
least 200 years. It’s a good thing the Brits took over Egypt or we wouldn’t
know what we do.
Overt contact with aliens is perhaps only a couple years
(2025ish) from now. It is likely our first contact will be with biological
robots to minimize the mental danger we pose to advanced humans, at least
spiritually. After all, it is likely many of the witches we burned were likely
aliens that made a mistake by trusting someone.
Comet 1680 is all but found. The perturbations from its
massive size are already known, but it really is far away in the Oort Cloud and
extremely difficult to see in the way we are looking. We need to be using electromagnetic
wavelengths outside the visible range and acoustics. We need to fine tune the
places we are looking toward by using the 575.5-year cycle and resulting
sungrazer orbit. You can see details on www.the-word-according-to-jim.blogspot.com
. This is a little intro of humor, but
the report contains very serious technical analysis.
It is not going to be easy to change the minds of the Navajo
Nation or the Teddy Roosevelt types that support the Indian way. The government
has been wrong about UFOs and is wrong about tying up ancient knowhow. Even
though most aliens have come here in advanced spaceships, boys and girls get
together now and then and make more boys and girls and then there are far too
many to leave. Those staying behind are
forefathers to us all, not just the ones who think they are a special gift from
God.
Interested readers on the internet need to grow some type of
organization that can exert pressure on key organizations and governments to
free up access to ancient sites all around the world. Perhaps this blog will
help.
LET’S NOT ENCOURAGE BREAK IN A REGULATION
It is very likely that any written regulation blocking a
legitimate research project would be Federal Regulations which are often
challenged in Federal Court and reversed. We need to prepare for a court case,
not jump into federal jail.
In my teenage mining experience, I operated an air activated
tram that hauled muck out of the 2600-foot 6 x 6 foot tunnel. My secondary duties included the making of
primers for blasting, greasing the machinery and replacing worn drill bits
using a “bit knocker”. The key for this project is that the tunnel had a
natural “breathing action” which allowed outside colder air to ooze in the
bottom, warm up and then flow out the top or vice versa when it was hot
outside. Modern-day mines require forced ventilation to meet MSHA regulations.
We had such a system, but it only went in about 900 of the 2600 feet…it was
just for the mine inspector show and tell. Obviously, the compressed air for
the drill, mucking machine, bit knocker and tram provided compressed air clear
to the back but today you are not supposed to breath only that type of air.
But years after there was no activity in the mine, the air
was very breathable clear to the back suggesting the tunnel had a natural
breathing activity that kept it ok for casual entrance. Even today it is not
risky to enter the tunnel a few hundred feet from the nearest cave-in.
If the cavern has a higher secondary portal and in a warm
climate as the Colorado River is at 2830 feet elevation, then the cavern will
normally “breath out” at the lower portal. The image below shows what could be
a camouflaged secondary portal.
This location seems to have trails connecting to the overall
canyon exit trail and another one going up to Small Point Plateau. The entrance
could allow spring runoff to be diverted down into the cavern to a large water
storage room for water used for other purposes than drinking. If this portal
exists, it would be certain proof that there is something else to be discovered.
How To Attack the Lower Portal Blockage
It looks from the muck pile and large stones that there is a
small zone of pulverized material that could be sunk next to the wall perhaps
only 10 feet to find the entrance. Drilling down there with a battery powered
pipe might easily find a point where air begins to move in the hollow drill
pipe.
The key point here is to define what the scope of work would
be to get the potential cavern entrance open and what risk, if any, that it
poses to workers.
Now with modern helicopters, powered mining equipment could
be flown in to make this initial investigation quick and cheap. The court
should easily approve a fact-finding mission to resolve the case expeditiously
without risk to anyone.
If the cavern entrance is there, then the court can deal
with the next phase which might be to open it enough to install a permanent
stainless-steel gate that can be locked and secured for only legitimate
research entrance. Perhaps by that phase the project is off and running and mankind
can benefit from the efforts of folks thousands of years ago.
Retired Professional Engineering Manager









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